At least in the top tiers. Kil'jaedon on the other hand was a master of deceiving and manipulation, even when Archimonde seemed to run the show Kil'jaeden was pulling the strings. Because his momma died, IIRC. One of them is loud, openly aggressive and likes showing his strength in the open. Everyone else was... meh? Kil'jaeden likely didn't mind much, if at all, since the dynamic would be near identical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf7j4IIIZrU. My bet is on Kil'Jaeden, cause he's red. But when KJ tried to come through the Sunwell back in BC, he was quite a bit bigger than he appears now. Unless Kil'Jaeden has feats I've never seen before then they aren't beating Nagash and Ka'Bandha, two of the strongest beings in End Times. It's not more reasons. He did kill an Ancient Guardian mostly with his bare hands. Honestly, The other five, even as incarnates, would lose to Teclis. Two of the three accepted, one refused. Both dangerous. KJ was massive in the sunwell raid as well. No? I get the impression that in the loss of Archimonde and Sargeras unknown and likely disembodied position, that Kil'jaeden's ambition is leading him to take on a larger role in the Legion. Be the one who actually saved elven kind and the world [Teclis/Caledor]? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I like to think of them as twins with equal strength. This is something people tend to look over when it comes to Titans as well. . Oh noesssssssssssssssssssss, should Teclis just come and goombastomp him? I think it was Rufin that said this, on claims that Archimonde was said to be "stronger": Archimonde is the guy you'd call to help you move a couch, Kil'jaeden is the guy that could turn the couch into a sheep or beat the couch at chess. Comparing Archimonde and Kil'jaeden always feels like comparing Thor and Loki. Basically pentagon and CIA respectively. Then either he or his avatar possessed (depending on current retcon) Medivh in her womb, and ends up MIA with Medivh's death. @decaf_wizard: @wut: Sorry boys i just thought Kil Jaeden could duke it in the magic aspect with Nagash and Arch would bring it on via a fist fight. @decaf_wizard: Ah okay ill have to find the thread, that the quote was displayed in, If even he was implied to be able to do such a thing under his own power with no circumstances, it would be so stupidly inconsistant that its a nonsense statement. Maybe, sure. Kil, Jaden just aint that kind of guy. Archimonde is a logical successor. since he looked like Aenarion with widowmaker [and was an A-Hole like Aenarion with Widowmaker]. © 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Sargeras failed to take Azeroth once. They are powerful in different ways, Archimonde was the most battle-worthy strong of the two, he would of likely beat Kil'jaeden in a straight up fight. The other is more conniving and likes to rule from the shadows. Sargeras was the boss, but Archimonde was his muscle in controlling armies. They have the ability to control their height at will? . He wouldn't win a fight but he'd never get caught in a fight he can't win in the first place. Instead Teclis should do the one thing he would never do and betray humanity, you know, Teclis, the dude that has gone so far out of his way to protect humanity that he is the closest thing to an 'Okay Elf' humanity has ever known, to bring back his brother that contributes nothing to the world']. He was probably trying to make a grand entrance, not expecting the amount of resistance he would face. You know, if it wasn't for the Sunwell I would 100% agree with you here. For him life is all about walking around a city or routing army and crushing everything beneath his feet while blowing spells everywhere. You get the impression that KJ's role has changed from his intro in Sunwell. I like to think Kil'jaeden is more magically powerful and versatile while Archimonde is also an accomplished physical fighter. XD. You cannot have a proper Burning Legion invasion without the proclamations to back it. That was his undoing at the Battle for Mount Hyjal. They could stomp some of the other incarnates pretty badly tho. Strongest were Nagash, Sigmar and Grimgor tho. What we encounter in DHT is basically Xavius' Mary sue RP character. KJ was pretty big in BC so either they can control their size at will or it's just gameplay reasons. Like Tyrion, Caradryan, Alarielle. Tyrion drew the sword of khaine and is now insane! Many demons join Illidan. Honestly, I would say strongest bar like.......Kroak and maybe Mazdamundi, but thats a large maybe, @decaf_wizard: Its okay, neither of those two were Incarnates. Archimonde is loads stronger, power-wise. Then Archimonde gets himself killed on Azeroth. Archimonde always loved to destroy and wreck havoc. [I am going to be straight with you, I just thumbed through the whole elf war nonsense because I hate elves and I really hate Tyrionand its just a long 'Oh noes! Archimonde is a bit more of a show off than Kil'jaeden is, so naturally he comes across as larger than KJ. I think i read somewhere that archimonde was Sargeras's left hand, and Kil'jaedenw as his right, so to say.. not entirely sure on taht though. If you run Sunwell you'll see he can be pretty big. Any other of the Incarnates or Liches in WHF? Then he vanished after fighting Medivh's mother. He's not. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the warcraftlore community. She's just sized for whatever is convenient. I like to think Kil'jaeden is more magically powerful and versatile while Archimonde is also an accomplished physical fighter. Archimonde/Kil'jaeden Ka'Bandha/Nagash Rules Everyone at their primeNo BFRWin by death No prepRandom EncounterNo outside interferenceAll lore allowed

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