Well, I was just trying to carry on TonyE's joke from earlier in the thread . 10th Gurkha Rifles who died on 16/10/1920 BASRA MEMORIAL Iraq' dailyinfo[9]='34413 Private Charles FRIEDLANDER 5th Bn. dailyinfo[14]='2417 Private Alfred Lawson STRUTHERS Australian Army Postal Corps who died on 14/10/1920 PORT ADELAIDE AND SUBURBAN CEMETERY Australia' The "Queen's Own" (Royal West Kent Regiment). dailyinfo[1]=' 2329 Sergeant Walter ABOTOMEY 1st Bn. Learning to Identify certain attributes of these cartridges is a key in understanding what country they belonged to, and how old they may be. Sqdn. var fontstart = '' // Stop Define Variables for days of the month It is a intriguing question. dailyinfo[5]='808 Private William Douglas WRIGHT Canadian Army Dental Corps who died on 05/10/1920 MONTREAL (MOUNT ROYAL) CEMETERY Canada' I think 'CF' was one punch or stamp, so a mis-aligned or unevenly-struck 'CF' suggests two separate operations. As with my previous blogs about identification, trawling the net is all well and good, but having … Shell filling was not a simple task by then. PS Roger - His name was Fred and he had a cheese sandwich for lunch that day. Others might be able to add to that. dailyinfo[15]= '14296 Guardsman Edgar NELMES M M, Mentioned in Despatches 2nd Bn. The Great War Forum Limited var fontend = '' var dailyinfo=new Array(31) WW1 fuzes galleries Main entry page to the fifferent galleries of WW1 artillery fuzes. Remembered Today: Similarly, look at the geographic spread around the world, some for the army and others obviously for the Royal Navy. dailyinfo[30]='14/1745 Private Frederick Charles FRANKLIN 14th Bn. But do not be too ready to 'stand corrected', because my memory may be mistaken. list but it only goes up to 1916 and the above case is dated 1917. The First World War saw several developments in artillery warfare. These stations may have started out as shell filling stations in the 19th Century but I cannot believe they were ALL filling shell in WWI. I have a case marked KY which isn't on the list. dailyinfo[17]='989X Seaman Loyal RANDELL H.M.C.S. dailyinfo[7]='15270 Aircraftman 2nd Class Walter James MORRISON Aircraft Depot (Egypt) Royal Air Force who died on 07/10/1920 ALEXANDRIA (CHATBY) MILITARY AND WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY Egypt' The No.1 Mark II primer is also Canadian and if the letters are "CGE" then it was made by Canadian Allis Chalmers Ltd. Blimey Tony. London Regiment who died on 27/10/1920 ST. PANCRAS CEMETERY United Kingdom' Many of the Canadian shell cases were delivered to the UK empty and were filled here either by private contractors such as Kynoch or government facilities like the National Filling Factories. Thanks. dailyinfo[22]=' Lieutenant William Alfred DIXON M C 2nd Bn. Thank you for resolving the entry - Look's like the title used in Williamson may need amending. I have no firm evidence for the above and would be pleased to hear others thoughts. Artillery is not my expertise, but I've done some preliminary internet searching which lead me to this forum. SIMON AND JUDE) ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCHYARD United Kingdom' I have asked this question before but not had a satisfactory answer, the markings are for shell filling stations stamped on shells, the markings we always talk about are case markings, so were they filled at the same stations and marked the same way? 7th Battery, 3rd Field Artillery Brigade, Australian Imperial Forces. Artillery shells generally come with a lot of different markings on them. These markings have several different purposes, but the main purpose for the labels is safety. A number of them are naval ammunition depots also, for example Pembroke, Priddy's Hard, Portsmouth, Crombie (for Rosyth) etc. Moseley Rugby Club. dailyinfo[28]=' 516 Private Fokin LOHVIN Russian Army who died on 28/10/1920 KANTARA WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY Egypt' . Packets of paper cartridges for the Pattern 53 muzzle loader are known with the "J" stamp as the manufacturer. An example on a much smaller scale is that of "J" for Jamaica station. Duke of Wellingtons (West Riding Regiment) who died on 02/10/1920 MOUNT ZION METHODIST CHAPELYARD United Kingdom' Hello to the board. var mydate=new Date() Sign up for a new account in our community. Suffolk Regiment who died on 22/10/1920 DOVER (ST. JAMESS) CEMETERY United Kingdom' I am curious about learning more about my 18 pounder, now. Does Mr. Wiliamson give any indication what or who "Kingston" is? 311th Brigade RFA. The other information which will help you to determine its origin are the shell's measurements (base, bottom, top and sometimes neck diameter and full length). Although these bagged charges were quite complex, actually making them up was relatively low tech. Lancashire Fusiliers who died on 21/10/1920 KEIGHLEY (MORTON) CEMETERY United Kingdom' Hi just found this shell in Mulroy Bay, Donegal, North west Ireland, me i my son out walking along the shore near Milford, great looking at the information you guys have put up, very useful thanks. A shell is a payload-carrying projectile that, as opposed to shot, contains an explosive or other filling, though modern usage sometimes includes large solid projectiles properly termed shot. Grenadier Guards who died on 15/10/1920 BRISTOL (GREENBANK) CEMETERY United Kingdom' German GZ04 Artillery shell head 1914 modification for high explosive shell dated 1915 for 10cm-21cm calibre shell recovered in 2012 from the British front line area at Maricourt on the June-July 1916 Somme battlefield. Roman army; WWI and its bayonets - German Imperial bayonets especially; English cheese, beer, smoked back bacon; being a POF, In particular anything to do with the Military Of the Hampton Court Palace and its old barracks, https://ator1149.home.xs4all.nl/wfm/ww1/ammunition2.html. Shell filling was not a simple task by then. The three letter code (IQW?) His name was Fred and he had a cheese sandwich for lunch that day. The First World War saw several developments in artillery warfare. dailyinfo[29]='143 Stoker BAHAUDDIN BHOLA MIYAN Royal Indian Marine who died on 29/10/1920 BOMBAY 1914-1918 MEMORIAL, MUMBAI India' I suspect many were more likely to have been cartridge filling stations for bagged charges rather than shell. var year=mydate.getYear() WW1 artillery shell fuzes types The basic notions needed to understand the detailed explanations accompaining each of the fuzes exposed in the following galleries. [1] Artillery shells were used for weapon emission by the German troops in 1915, and the Allies followed their example after the Second Battle of Ypres. But like many on GWF interested in the weapons of war I learnt a lot from and also enjoyed his many postings... And so miss his ID's. Mainly British WW2 but a couple of WW1 and American ones may have crept in! Most famously used in tanks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_6-pounder_Hotchkiss#United_Kingdom_service, It’s a MkIII case made in 1918 by Kynoch (K) and loaded once with a full charge of cordite. Cordite is very stable and could have been delivered to magazines in bulk and then cut and filled in the linen bags. Royal Field Artillery who died on 25/10/1920 EVESHAM (BENGEWORTH) CEMETERY United Kingdom' dailyinfo[8]='344307 Plumber 1st Class Charles McLAUGHLIN H.M.S. First World War in general, Somme specifically. (CF), Good afternoon chaps - I am struggling with one of the markings in the centre of this shell, its the No1 that confuses me, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. British military Small Arms and ammunition. For example, is it a company, government facility or place? I have checked my copy of that manual, actually "Explanatory List of Service Markings 1918" and on Page 56 there is the list of Station Monograms and Initials including "K" for Kingston, Canada. var month=mydate.getMonth()+1 Drawing is probably the most common method of constructing casings. "Niobe." The salient from Boezinge to Ploegsteert and the Arras area. Coldstream Guards who died on 18/10/1920 ULSHAW BRIDGE (SS. dailyinfo[16]='5070 Lance Naik RANBAHADUR GURUNG 1st Bn. dailyinfo[3]='48191 Rifleman Stancliffe RILEY 2nd Bn. Royal Navy who died on 08/10/1920 DUNFERMLINE (DOUGLAS BANK) CEMETERY United Kingdom' dailyinfo[13]='4682188 Private Robert JONES 1st Bn. dailyinfo[23]=' 21642 Private Harry George ROGERS 4th Bn. document.write; Royal Corps of Signals who died on 20/10/1920 BAGHDAD (NORTH GATE) WAR CEMETERY Iraq' Hope you can see detail of this 1918 13pdr shell.Its been sort of recrumpled narrow at the top ,somebody told me that was done so it could be reused by another calibre .No idea if that's right or not .Any thoughts? Allen Rupert Ingleram TWISLETON-WYKEHAM-FIENNES M C 34th Bty. "Lion." The First World War saw several developments in artillery warfare. 2nd King Edwards Own Gurkha Rifles (The Sirmoor Rifles) who died on 24/10/1920 BASRA WAR CEMETERY Iraq ' War memorials and losses. below that is the lot code but the exact meaning has never been found. dailyinfo[19]=' Captain Albert Arthur CAIN General List who died on 19/10/1920 MANCHESTER SOUTHERN CEMETERY United Kingdom' Refillings were then indicated by the addition of one or more Fs. Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry who died on 13/10/1920 BASRA WAR CEMETERY Iraq' They are ammunition stations or issuing depots and the initials would be found on ammunition packaging or possibly re-packs and the like. 306th Bde. Scots Guards who died on 31/10/1920 NOTTINGHAM GENERAL CEMETERY United Kingdom ' First off, the shell is not live. Sadly, it's actually almost 3 years since TonyE died (22 September 2014). The markings identify data that is crucial to both the government and the person using the artillery shell. if (year < 1000) year+=1900 Free Shipping! dailyinfo[31]='2688559 Guardsman Frank WAKELIN 2nd Bn. Artillery barrages were also used before an infantry battle, to distract the enemy away from the place of attack, or the paths behind the lines were fired on so that enemy reinforcements could not safely reach the front lines. £25.00. The artillery of World War I led to trench warfare, was an important factor in the war, influenced its tactics, operations, and incorporated strategies that were used by the belligerents to break the stalemate at the front. Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Williamson's Guide notes that the Filling Station Monogram 'K' denotes Kingston, Canada - could this be more in keeping with the fact that this is a Canadian shell case? var daym=mydate.getDate() Royal Field Artillery who died on 10/10/1920 UNITED KINGDOM BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE United Kingdom' Identify … Devonshire Regiment who died on 23/10/1920 DARTMOUTH (LONGCROSS) CEMETERY United Kingdom' It’s a cartridge case for the 6 Pounder Hotchkiss gun. It's easy! dailyinfo[26]=' Brigadier General Frederick Stuart DAWSON C M G, D S O and Bar, 4 times Mentioned in Despatches Instructional and Administrative Staff Union Defence Forces who died on 26/10/1920 SOUTH AFRICAN BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE South Africa' Canadian 18 Pr. dailyinfo[6]='159054 Master at Arms Albert BETSWORTH H.M.S. An example in that list is Woolwich, which as a depot has the monogram "W", but the Royal Arsenal that actually filled ammunition used the monogram "RL". It was filled by Kynoch Birmingham (K) on 30 June 1917 and has been filled once with a full cordite charge (CF). if (month<10) month="0"+month //-->, By I have not come across it before, but that does not mean a lot! These are not filling stations, and nowhere does the manual give them that title. dailyinfo[2]='200605 Lance Corporal Norman Wharton SMITHIES 1st/4th Bn. dailyinfo[12]=' Captain Alfred Pelli WHITE D S O Surrey Yeomanry (Queen Marys Regiment) who died on 12/10/1920 KINGSTON-UPON-THAMES CEMETERY United Kingdom' Learning to Identify certain attributes of these cartridges is a key in understanding what country they belonged to, and how old they may be. dailyinfo[27]='610669 Corporal Joseph Daniel PAVEY 19th Bn. Was the technology available there to fill shell?

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